2022 USA Pickleball Rules Changes Update: Chainsaw Serve (Zane Navratil serve) banned?

2022 USA Pickleball Rules Changes Update: Chainsaw Serve (Zane Navratil serve) banned?

Will Zane serve be banned? What about Morgan’s Serve? Watch 2022 USA Pickleball rules changes UPDATE with coach Joe Gmuer. Stay tuned for more pickleball tips, lessons, and news!
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  1. Jeff Bartlett on November 25, 2021 at 10:28 pm

    Please consider the unintended consequences of changing the rules. Age and injuries brought so many of us from tennis to pickleball. It was pinvesteddidn’t

    bake to our sport. Are we to ban them too? What about the textured Electrum paddle? Where does it end?

    makingshould all have a chance to enjoy.

  2. Pickleball Will on November 25, 2021 at 10:33 pm

    Thanks for the update Joey!

  3. R Dierlam on November 25, 2021 at 10:35 pm

    Watching what Morgan does with his serve, while it looks a little more complicated to learn, players are certainly going to start practicing it. I wish the rules committee would have came down a little harder, because a year or two from now they are going to be discussing banning any spin, and it’s just going to tick off all the people that spent countless hours trying to copy Morgan. It’s actually harder to read the spin Morgan is putting on the ball compared to Zane. As opposed to the "open palm" rule, seems like they could have just added language like "when the player releases the ball from their hand, they cannot impart unnatural and/or significant spin on the ball". I know there is a level of judgement there, but it’s obvious when a player is intentionally adding spin that is going to cause an unnatural bounce.

  4. Ryan Simmons on November 25, 2021 at 10:44 pm

    Played in a tournament a week ago and in bracket play we were against a team we previously beat in pool play. One of them started using a very effective chainsaw serve that would jump two feet away from us when it landed. They scored 6 points on us and took the lead. We fought back BY EARNING THE POINTS THROUGH GAME PLAY so the score was 8-10. They got possession of the ball and did the spin serve and won. It feels cheap and unfair to win through a spin serve instead of through rallies. I won’t be doing anymore tournaments until I know if this spin serve is banned.

  5. Rachel Wilder on November 25, 2021 at 10:47 pm

    Winning most of your points on the serve just isn’t fun. I don’t know why people like that. I hope serves go back to the basics soon.

  6. Richard Fitch Pickleball on November 25, 2021 at 10:56 pm

    If the intent is to put the emphasis of the game on rallies, not serving, then certainly all spin tosses should be eliminated. In the same spirit, a let serve should be replayed. Love your videos.

  7. Kevin Ruback on November 25, 2021 at 10:57 pm

    I played yesterday in rec play against a guy that I can outplay in almost every respect except that he has a wicked chainsaw serve. Many of his serves were either faults or aces. My partners usually have much more trouble than I do with the serve, often not even returning it. My problem is that I have trouble returning it deeply, so that often the third shot is a winning drive from less than ten feet from the net. They NEED to make the Pickleball serve tightly regulated as it is in Ping Pong, otherwise the game is going to become basically unplayable at the rec level and the growth of the game will come to a screeching halt.

  8. Imaginary Number on November 25, 2021 at 11:02 pm

    Shay Underwood DID NOT prove that a single-hand serve could be spun faster than a double-hand serve. He only showed that *he* was able to spin the ball single-handed faster than *he* could spin a double-hand serve. For other people it may very well be that *they* could spin a double-handed serve faster than *they* could spin a single-hand serve.

  9. Jason Erpelding on November 25, 2021 at 11:04 pm

    4:35 “Thank God because I call this the dementia rule.” 😂😂😂😂

  10. Dan Normand on November 25, 2021 at 11:06 pm

    Joey – you should reach out to Mark Peifer. He is who wrote this document and can clarify.

  11. Micah on November 25, 2021 at 11:16 pm

    I know this is probably an unpopular opinion and it’s probably because I come from tennis but I really don’t mind servers getting the opportunity to put more pressure on the return team with spin serves. The return team is already at an advantage so it evens the playing field slightly. People will adapt to spin serves given more time. With a trained eye it’s not as difficult as most think to see which direction the ball will bounce. In fact it’s telegraphed pretty clearly by the servers stance. It becomes a matter of proper contact to hit a good return once you know where the ball is going.

  12. Mike Dierlam on November 25, 2021 at 11:24 pm

    Thanks for the update!

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